New Batch of Idiots - Drift Tuners

[drifttuners]

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[Import Export]

Oh boy.

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Hey Sean this was a good read I own an importing company specializing in custom building DRIFT cars and importing newer JDM's for track use. Check us out at http://drifttuners.com Send me an email sometime, like to chat.

Later
Jeremy Boddy
DRIFT Tuners

[tyndago]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Hey Sean this was a good read I own an importing company specializing in custom building DRIFT cars and importing newer JDM's for track use. Check us out at http://drifttuners.com Send me an email sometime, like to chat.

Later
Jeremy Boddy
DRIFT Tuners

Jeremy ,

I have seen your site. I chose not to say anything about it. I wasn't in the mood then.

The honest truth is that you don't want me to look at your site, cause I will break it down like Supaca. Just glancing at it the last time, there were a ton of things that were not right.

Like I said - I chose to leave you alone. Supacas got my attention right now.

If you want, I'll start on you next.

[drifttuners]

Sorry to hear that Sean. Your tone comes across a bit bitter and I can see why however be sure you have the details of the company that you are investigating because there is a fine line from slander to picking up the phone and talking to the sources. I have heard that you worked with MOTOREX for a brief amount of time therefore you should be aware that J.K Technologies, LLC did the crash testing for MOTOREX and provided the list to MOTOREX on how and what to modify to bring it into Federalization standards, that’s who our RI is in the United States. Questioning websites and there claims is smart however don’t let a few bad experiences turn you into a victim. DRIFT Tuners has, can and will be importing track vehicles into Canada and the United States and the process is not as hard as you may think, the cost is a bit higher because of the required modifications that need to be done prior to shipping to get the approval by the EPA/NHTSA for track use. Besides if you really did work for MOTOREX then keep in mind you were under payroll of a company that was doing dishonest/illegal actions just as you are accusing other companies of. I can’t stress this enough, please read all our information very carefully and when you do, read it again. So as the conclusion, yes you’re right there are a lot of “companies” and individuals that claim things that are a bit grey however DRIFT Tuners is not one of them, if you need our contacts with people that we do business with on a regular bases at the EPA, NHTSA and Lois (the owner of J.K Technologies) I would be glad to pass it along. As for as our technique and methods used, we would need to hold that close to our chest for the better interest of our company.

Jeremy Boddy
Owner, DRIFT Tuners

[ExZaCc]

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i wanna just watch how this turns out..

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[tyndago]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

I have heard that you worked with MOTOREX for a brief amount of time therefore you should be aware that J.K Technologies, LLC did the crash testing for MOTOREX and provided the list to MOTOREX on how and what to modify to bring it into Federalization standards, that’s who our RI is in the United States. EPA/NHTSA for track use. Besides if you really did work for MOTOREX then keep in mind you were under payroll of a company that was doing dishonest/illegal actions just as you are accusing other companies of. I can’t stress this enough, please read all our information very carefully and when you do, read it again. and Lois (the owner of J.K Technologies)

You are dumb too. These guys think I came into the importing and car game last week. Seriously. You might want to look at my bio. You are getting yourself into something. I told you to shut up, and you didn't listen.

Who exactly do you think did all the compliance work on every single GT-R that came into the US from 1999-2002. If you say JK then you are wrong. JK never did a single compliance package on a GT-R. They did the initial work, however they never completed a single car.

Jonathan was the owner of JK, however with all the trouble that they had with the EPA, he turned it over to his girlfriend Lois. Lois by the way, that Luke Loy from the Office of Vehicle Safety and Compliance called "the devil.".

Ask JK about all the EPA issues they had. Ask them about ... Craig Smith I think it is. Jonathans friend that used to sign off EPA paperwork. The guy that Jonathan bailed out of jail one time.

Seriously dude, just shut up. I forgot more information about importing while sitting on the toilet this morning than you will ever know.

[tyndago]

The guy comes on here telling me about the things I did in 1999... Let me move the stuff from the Supaca Thread.

[Import Export]

How many cars have you brought in to the states as race/track cars with proper paperwork?

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Sorry to hear that Sean. Your tone comes across a bit bitter and I can see why however be sure you have the details of the company that you are investigating because there is a fine line from slander to picking up the phone and talking to the sources. I have heard that you worked with MOTOREX for a brief amount of time therefore you should be aware that J.K Technologies, LLC did the crash testing for MOTOREX and provided the list to MOTOREX on how and what to modify to bring it into Federalization standards, that’s who our RI is in the United States. Questioning websites and there claims is smart however don’t let a few bad experiences turn you into a victim. DRIFT Tuners has, can and will be importing track vehicles into Canada and the United States and the process is not as hard as you may think, the cost is a bit higher because of the required modifications that need to be done prior to shipping to get the approval by the EPA/NHTSA for track use. Besides if you really did work for MOTOREX then keep in mind you were under payroll of a company that was doing dishonest/illegal actions just as you are accusing other companies of. I can’t stress this enough, please read all our information very carefully and when you do, read it again. So as the conclusion, yes you’re right there are a lot of “companies” and individuals that claim things that are a bit grey however DRIFT Tuners is not one of them, if you need our contacts with people that we do business with on a regular bases at the EPA, NHTSA and Lois (the owner of J.K Technologies) I would be glad to pass it along. As for as our technique and methods used, we would need to hold that close to our chest for the better interest of our company.

Jeremy Boddy
Owner, DRIFT Tuners

[tyndago]

Hey Jeremy -

You might want to read this blog about vehicle import-

http://vehicleimport.blogspot.com/

[tyndago]

And Jeremy, the things you are thinking you are doing today , I was doing 10 years ago.

So, what exactly do you think you know ?

[tyndago]

Mentioning Motorex , when you have no idea what actually happened there is also not something high on my "smart" things to do. You are not smart, so that is why you did it.

Its ok , you and Supaca are the same in my eyes. Thank you for bringing yourself to my attention.

[tyndago]

I will not waste my time on the phone talking to you. I will talk publically, so everyone can see it. So there is a record. I can show proof and references to where I get my information.

Sorry for you, you think you know something you really don't. You aren't the first, and you are not the last.

[Mr. Opportunist]

I don't understand why he tried to plug his company and stick his nose where it didn't belong. I feel sorry for him ...

[drifttuners]

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[tyndago]

Race car Import. I know you know nothing about me, so I will tell you this. In 2005-2006, I was crew chief for an R34 GT-R that ran in SCCA World Challenge. We bought a Super Taikyu R34 that was in the states from Symbolic Motorcars, and we purchased the Altia R34 GT-R from the owners in Japan.

http://vehicleimport.blogspot.com/20...nently-to.html

We purchased a race car in Japan. One with racing history. We purchased it as a backup for the main car to run in SCCA World Challenge.

The following sets forth the requirements for a vehicle to be imported as a racing vehicle. A vehicle that was originally manufactured as a racing vehicle can be declared as an off-road vehicle under Box 8 on the HS-7 Declaration form that is to be furnished to the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (Customs) at time of importation. Such a vehicle can be permanently imported into the United States. A motor vehicle that was not originally manufactured as a racing vehicle can only be imported on a temporary basis under Box 7 on the HS-7 Declaration form. The importer must obtain a letter of permission from NHTSA to import a vehicle on that basis. To obtain such a letter, the vehicle must be in full racing configuration at the time of importation and lack features associated with safe and practical public road use. Determinations are based on the capability of the vehicle to be used on public roads, not its intended use.

To import a racing vehicle into the United States on a permanent basis, you must:
Obtain from the vehicle’s original manufacturer a letter stating that the vehicle was originally manufactured as a racing vehicle.
File with Customs, upon entry, an HS-7 Declaration form on which Box 8 is checked, indicating that the vehicle was not manufactured primarily for use on the public roads, and is therefore not a motor vehicle subject to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper, and Theft Protection Standards.
Attach a copy of the manufacturer’s letter to the HS-7 Declaration form that you furnish to Customs.

[drifttuners]

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[tyndago]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Well Sean it’s too bad that you come across a bit arrogant, nor did I say once that J.K. did the compliance work, I simply stated that they did the crash testing, everything about all aspects of importation and don’t really care too however we do know very well the process for our specialization. ,

Arrogant , you better believe it. After years, and years of people like you, I got this way.

People like you, lie and scam people into thinking they can do something, they can not do.

It is only legal to bring in a race car, that is a race car. I am sure on the phone you tell people that what they do with the car is up to them. Probably lead them into thinking they can register cars no problems. Things like that. I have heard it all before, seen it all before.

I am the one that people call, when they have been scammed by companies like yours. I am just looking out for the consumers. I have a good relationship with most of the GT-R owners in the US. Most of the owners I have met and know on a personal basis. I email and talk with them often.

Just remember, you brought this on yourself.

So explain then, how you get a car over as a race car ? How you get a car imported ? Are you TIBing it ? Taking it apart, bringing it in as parts ? Are you getting actual approvals from the EPA and DOT.

If you have actual examples of documents, then post them. Post the cars and circumstances.

Thats an individual thing, I can show anyone how to do it if they have credentials and a need for a race car. I will show anyone how to do it for free.

[Import Export]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

we (DRIFT Tuners) don’t know everything about all aspects of importation and don’t really care too

Well you should care. That information that you "don't really care to know" is the information you will need to know when the heat is on.

[Gee-TR]

:hsdance:

[Mr. Opportunist]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Just so you know the first post I ever posted on this site and this topic was the following

"Hey Sean this was a good read I own an importing company specializing in custom building DRIFT cars and importing newer JDM's for track use. Check us out at http://drifttuners.com Send me an email sometime, like to chat.

Later
Jeremy Boddy
DRIFT Tuners"



It was a friendly gesture

I don't know if it's something with your elementary school knowledge, or your lack of common sense, but you have further proved my point. You jumped into a thread you had no involvement with to shamelessly plug your company for all to see because of the magnitude of the subject. What would you consider entering a thread and saying "Hello, come visit my site, I hope you buy a car!?" I consider that a half assed attempt at putting your company out to the public on a large skyline enthusiast site.

Originally Posted by drifttuners

We've done lots bud, *Nodes his head*

Would you like a dictionary? You like to use big words to compensate for the lack of professionalism in your posts yet you are incapable of properly spelling a word as simple as nods.

[drifttuners]

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[Import Export]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Just so you know the first post I ever posted on this site and this topic was the following

"Hey Sean this was a good read I own an importing company specializing in custom building DRIFT cars and importing newer JDM's for track use. Check us out at http://drifttuners.com Send me an email sometime, like to chat.

Later
Jeremy Boddy
DRIFT Tuners"



It was a friendly gesture

You jumped in to a thread that had to do with a company that provided misleading information and false knowlege. Then you post your site with the same- misleading information and false knowlege. Do not jump in to something when you have nothing but the same to back it up. Or you will get 3rd degree burns.

[Import Export]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Remember my fine line quote above about slander, I have your contact information and this topic has been saved. I'm gong to monitor things you say and will proceed accordingly if it get's out of hand. I also have been talking to the Administrator and is aware of the discussion.

*Walking away…*

Facts are facts. Oh and its not slander its LIBEL. Look it up. Its not that easy to put libel on someone when all they provide is facts

[Mr. Opportunist]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Remember my fine line quote above about slander, I have your contact information and this topic has been saved. I'm gong to monitor things you say and will proceed accordingly if it get's out of hand. I also have been talking to the Administrator and is aware of the discussion.

*Walking away…*

You entered and uphill battle, that is your own fault.

[Import Export]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Remember my fine line quote above about slander, I have your contact information and this topic has been saved. I'm gong to monitor things you say and will proceed accordingly if it get's out of hand. I also have been talking to the Administrator and is aware of the discussion.

*Walking away…*

Tell Fred we said hi.

[mcfly]

all the documents i have say JK motors on them, same as jk tech?

[tyndago]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Remember my fine line quote above about slander, I have your contact information and this topic has been saved. I'm gong to monitor things you say and will proceed accordingly if it get's out of hand. I also have been talking to the Administrator and is aware of the discussion.

If I said I was scared, or even bothered by this quote, you really don't know me at all.

Slander. Try it. Sue me. Go ahead. Go ahead. Please. I love how people throw this kind of stuff around, when they dont have money for the free lawyer service.


JK Motors - JK Technology. They probably did a name change in there after they were raided the first time by the EPA.

I have been to JK several times. I know Lois, I know Jonathan. I spent a bit of time over there when I was figuring out what Motorex needed to do for compliance. I have seen their operation.

So you say : " We've done lots bud, *Nodes his head*"

Ok. Give me proof of your lots ? You will have paperwork and approval letters from the DOT. Lead me to them. Please.

If I get bored, I'll call Lois and ask her about you guys.

[tyndago]

They said it - I didn't. Regardless of the law, they will import you a car. Perhaps they were looking for a different word ? Or perhaps it was a Freudian slip.

They say in here, they can take a street car, put a cage and seats in it, and make it into a race car. Are they sure they are not trying to import the cars temporarily. Then telling people its permanent. Whos going to be liable for the bond in a year, when the temporary bond is up ?

To import a motor vehicle into the United States on a temporary basis for racing purposes, you must:

Apply to NHTSA for a letter granting you permission to import the vehicle on a temporary basis. For that purpose, you should use the application form posted on this website.

File with Customs, upon entry, an HS-7 Declaration form on which Box 7 is checked, indicating that the motor vehicle does not comply with all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper, and Theft Prevention Standards, but is being imported solely for the purpose of competitive racing events.

Attach a copy of the NHTSA permission letter to the HS-7 Declaration form that you furnish to Customs.

To obtain such a permission letter from NHTSA, you must submit to the agency the following information in the order stated:

1. Importer’s name, address, and daytime phone number.
2. Customs broker’s name, contact, and phone number.
3. Vehicle information (make, model, model year, and VIN or identifying number).
4. A list of the racing features of the vehicle.
5. A list of the features lacking that are needed for use of the vehicle on public roads.
6. Photographs showing the following views: front, rear, side, and interior. Racing features and/or features lacking for on-road use on public roads should be shown in the photographs.
7. The name of the sanctioning body and competition class.
8. Previous race history of the vehicle (if any).
9. Schedule of racing events, including dates and locations where vehicle will compete (if any).
10. Copy of the competition-racing license of the importer (if any).

Permission to import a motor vehicle temporarily is granted in annual increments for up to three years if duty is not paid, or for up to five years if duty is paid. No later than 30 days after the expiration of the period for which permission is granted, the vehicle must be either exported from the United States or destroyed.

[tyndago]

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/impo...ing/Index.html

To Import a RACE CAR to the US:

To import a racing vehicle into the United States on a permanent basis, you must:
Obtain from the vehicle’s original manufacturer a letter stating that the vehicle was originally manufactured as a racing vehicle.
File with Customs, upon entry, an HS-7 Declaration form on which Box 8 is checked, indicating that the vehicle was not manufactured primarily for use on the public roads, and is therefore not a motor vehicle subject to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper, and Theft Protection Standards.
Attach a copy of the manufacturer’s letter to the HS-7 Declaration form that you furnish to Customs.

[drifttuners]

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[tyndago]

Ok , I'll play. One thing at a time, you are confused.

Where on the NHTSA site does it list "TRACK" car ?

I do not see it. I guess I missed the "TRACK" car section.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/

[merritt]

This is what box 8 of HS-7 says for those following along at home:

The vehicle was not manufactured primarily for use on the public roads and thus is not a motor vehicle subject to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper, and Theft Prevention Standards or the equipment item is not a system, part, or component of a motor vehicle and thus is not an item of motor vehicle equipment subject to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. [591.5(a)]
Attachment: Importer’s statement substantiating that the vehicle was not manufactured for use on the public roads, or that the equipment item was not manufactured for use on a motor vehicle or is not an item of motor vehicle equipment. [591.6(a)]

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[tyndago]

Please tell me about this "TRACK" car. Please provide me the link to where the NHTSA website lists a track car.

[tyndago]

Originally Posted by drifttuners

Wow sean your really a big cry baby lol you don't use a HS-7 Declaration for track cars, lol and the BOND is used only when you want to import for street use as per license and the box 8 after the car has been modified for track use (Long Mod List) Then you will know for your self and you will and should feel stupid, clown.

See you really don't know do you. Box 8 is part of the HS-7. That is box 8 is the number 8 box on the HS-7.

Are you sure you "don't use a HS-7" for track cars ?


Are you really sure ?

Haven't you just read about this on websites, and never actually done it ?

So who do you deal with at the EPA ? You have to get DOT/EPA and customs approval for a race car.

Still looking for this "TRACK" car exemption on the NHTSA website. Try not to choke on your own foot.

[tyndago]

I want to know how you import cars - under "your" competition license for other people.

How exactly do you do this ?

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/impo...ng/Racing.html

The following sets forth the requirements for a vehicle to be imported as a racing vehicle. A vehicle that was originally manufactured as a racing vehicle can be declared as an off-road vehicle under Box 8 on the HS-7 Declaration form that is to be furnished to the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (Customs) at time of importation. Such a vehicle can be permanently imported into the United States. A motor vehicle that was not originally manufactured as a racing vehicle can only be imported on a temporary basis under Box 7 on the HS-7 Declaration form. The importer must obtain a letter of permission from NHTSA to import a vehicle on that basis. To obtain such a letter, the vehicle must be in full racing configuration at the time of importation and lack features associated with safe and practical public road use. Determinations are based on the capability of the vehicle to be used on public roads, not its intended use.

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